Well, it's finals time... So not very much! Between an absurd amount of writing, my girlfriend, and Call of Duty, I haven't really given Warhammer much time, but I've been building:

And painting!

The Grey Knights are for fun, the Dark Angles are for a commission, and the Dreads are for a 1,000 point tournament at my local store, here's the list I'll be using:

100- Master of the Forge

125- Dreadnought- 2 Twin Linked Autocannons

125- Dreadnought- 2 Twin Linked Autocannons

100- Scout Squad- 5 Scouts- Power Fist

100- Scout Squad- 5 Scouts- Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles, and a Heavy Bolter

70- Land Speeder- Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer

70- Land Speeder- Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer

60- Land Speeder Storm- HEavy Flamer

125- Dreadnought- 2 Twin Linked Autocannons

125- Dreadnought- 2 Twin Linked Autocannons

Whatdayathink?

## Thursday, December 3, 2009

## Sunday, November 22, 2009

### Interesting Killpoints math over on Warseer

Saw this over on Warseer, figured I'd repost it here:

Yes, it's another Kill Point thread. I hope this one shows something new, so bear with me.

We've had a thread on whether KP's are a good mission, and whether they are "balanced." Clearly, on average, the smaller army has an advantage. The pro-KP side will contend that this is the case, but it balances out an equal and opposite advantage for large-unit-count-armies in objective missions, they will have more units to take or contest objectives with, and therefore most armies will gravitate to the same number of units, balancing out the mission.

This is largely a repost from the previous thread, so feel free to skip this section if you've gone through this (or if you hate algebra!)

Assuming you have two players, X and Y. X has

Now if we look at the objective mission (where things get more fuzzy): Player X has

So ((

This can only happen if

Assuming that both suffer equal proportions of losses, (

So now to test it!

So, the predictions are:

In order to test the predictions, I took a random sample of battle reports, namely the first 10 pages of the Warseer Battle Reports Forum (as they were November 19th). Each battle report was scrutinised and the following data recorded:

Battle reports were screened and only battle reports that met the following criteria were included:

Results are attached as an excel file [edit: text file as I'm not allowed to attach excel files, if anyone wants the original .xlsx file pm me]. To summarise:

Total Games = 18

Won by smaller army = 7

Won by larger army = 7

Tie games = 4

Chi-square = 0

P = 1

Total Games = 24

Won by smaller army = 9

Won by larger army = 7

Tie games = 8

Chi-square = 0.57

0.5 > P > 0.1

Total Games = 38

Won by smaller army = 24

Won by larger army = 11

Tie games = 3

Chi-square = 15.36

P < values =" number">

Sieze Ground and Capture & Control missions did not show any significant deviation from random, although C&C did show a slight trend towards the smaller-unit-count player (quite plausible, as small, elite, fearless armies may have an advantage in holding and keeping a small number of objectives). Annihilation missions showed the expected and highly significant advantage to the smaller player, with over double the number of games being won by the smaller side. Two games were noted by the authors as being a VP win for the side that lost by KP.

So: is there an advantage to high-unit-count armies for objective missions that counterbalances the clear advantage for small armies in annihilation missions? Answer: no.

Thanks to Lord Inquisitor for all the stats work, it's been too long since my one stats class.

Yes, it's another Kill Point thread. I hope this one shows something new, so bear with me.

We've had a thread on whether KP's are a good mission, and whether they are "balanced." Clearly, on average, the smaller army has an advantage. The pro-KP side will contend that this is the case, but it balances out an equal and opposite advantage for large-unit-count-armies in objective missions, they will have more units to take or contest objectives with, and therefore most armies will gravitate to the same number of units, balancing out the mission.

__Theory__This is largely a repost from the previous thread, so feel free to skip this section if you've gone through this (or if you hate algebra!)

Assuming you have two players, X and Y. X has

*x*units, Y has*y*units and we can assume these are not equal and*x>y*. X scores*b*KPs and Y scores*a*KPs. In order for X to win,*b>a*. But in order to do so, he must kill the fraction*b/y*of the enemy army. So assuming that*ca=b*(where*c*is a constant), in order to draw a KP mission:*ca/y = a/x*

=> c = y/x=> c = y/x

**Conclusions: player X must kill***y/x*more of the enemy army than Y.Now if we look at the objective mission (where things get more fuzzy): Player X has

*x*scoring/contesting units and Player Y has*y*scoring/contesting units (and*x>y*again). There are*z*objectives. Player X loses*a*units and player Y loses*b*units. Assuming each unit can only capture/contest 1 objective each (big assumption!), that all units can contest all objectives (another big assumption) and, for simplicity's sake, that one player will win if he has at least one less untaken objective than his opponent, then the number of untaken/uncontested objectives*U(x)*or*U(y)*are:*U(x)=*(*x-a*)-*z*(min 0)*U(y)=*(*y-b*)-*z*(min 0)*U(x)-U(y)>*1 for Y to winSo ((

*x-a*)-*z*)-((*y-b*)-*z*)>1This can only happen if

*x-a*and*y-b>z*Assuming that both suffer equal proportions of losses, (

*a/x*and*b/y*), then*x-a*>*y-b*therefore given the assumptions above, yes, X will be expected to win**but only if**. Therefore the optimum number of units is the minimum possible to leave*x-a>z**z*scoring/contesting units surviving the game, less if they can (a) take more than one objective or (b) they can move freely about the board and the enemy cannot.**Conclusion: an army with a larger unit count has an advantage in objective missions but only a) if the enemy has less than***z*units by the end of the game, (and remember that on average*z*=3and*z*is reduced by 1 for each enemy unit that is in range of multiple objectives); and b) if the numerically superior army has free reign to move about the board.__Statistics__So now to test it!

So, the predictions are:

- In Kill Point missions, the smaller army is expected to have an advantage.
- In Capture and Control missions, z=2, the advantage to the larger army is negligible, so neither is expected to have an advantage.
- In Sieze Ground missions, the larger army is expected to have an advantage.

In order to test the predictions, I took a random sample of battle reports, namely the first 10 pages of the Warseer Battle Reports Forum (as they were November 19th). Each battle report was scrutinised and the following data recorded:

- Mission Type
- Number of Objectives
- Number of units in each army (taking combat-squads or combined infantry squads into account)
- Outcome of game
- Whether the larger or smaller army won.

Battle reports were screened and only battle reports that met the following criteria were included:

- A detailed list of both armies' units
- Standard 40K missions (no planetstrike/ard boyz/etc)
- An unequal number of units between the armies
- Clear, online written format (I excluded all video reports, for example)

Results are attached as an excel file [edit: text file as I'm not allowed to attach excel files, if anyone wants the original .xlsx file pm me]. To summarise:

__Sieze Ground__Total Games = 18

Won by smaller army = 7

Won by larger army = 7

Tie games = 4

Chi-square = 0

P = 1

__Capture and Control__Total Games = 24

Won by smaller army = 9

Won by larger army = 7

Tie games = 8

Chi-square = 0.57

0.5 > P > 0.1

__Annihilation__Total Games = 38

Won by smaller army = 24

Won by larger army = 11

Tie games = 3

Chi-square = 15.36

P < values =" number">

**Conclusions.**Sieze Ground and Capture & Control missions did not show any significant deviation from random, although C&C did show a slight trend towards the smaller-unit-count player (quite plausible, as small, elite, fearless armies may have an advantage in holding and keeping a small number of objectives). Annihilation missions showed the expected and highly significant advantage to the smaller player, with over double the number of games being won by the smaller side. Two games were noted by the authors as being a VP win for the side that lost by KP.

So: is there an advantage to high-unit-count armies for objective missions that counterbalances the clear advantage for small armies in annihilation missions? Answer: no.

Thanks to Lord Inquisitor for all the stats work, it's been too long since my one stats class.

## Thursday, October 29, 2009

### Blog Stuff

Also, does anyone know how to get photobucket pictures to auto-resize on Blogger? I just noticed how weird these look half cut off...

### What I've been working on- 10/29

Figured I'd get some pictures up and then start pimping this blog for followers so it actually looks like I've been doing something with my life. Been working on the Ultramarines, painting up some Sternguard and working on a Space Hulk Terminator:

Here's a Sternguard Veteran Sergeant:

Now, I know it looks weird, but before I took this picture, I sprayed him with GW's varnish, and got this effect... So if anyone knows if there's a way to fix this I'd be so grateful.

And the Space Hulk Terminator with Heavy Flamer:

This is how I'll be doing my bases from now on- Cork is absolutely great.

Well, thanks for looking, let me know what you think!

Here's a Sternguard Veteran Sergeant:

Now, I know it looks weird, but before I took this picture, I sprayed him with GW's varnish, and got this effect... So if anyone knows if there's a way to fix this I'd be so grateful.

And the Space Hulk Terminator with Heavy Flamer:

This is how I'll be doing my bases from now on- Cork is absolutely great.

Well, thanks for looking, let me know what you think!

## Monday, October 26, 2009

### First Post!

Well, I finally folded and started a blog to catalog my Warhammer obsession. Expect regular updates of my Death Korp, Iron Hands, Ultramarines, and whatever else I have going on at the time. It won't just be a hobby blog though, expect lots of tactics and discussions of armies in both 40k and Fantasy.

That's all for now, I've got to get the site set up, but I'll start getting pictures up soon!

That's all for now, I've got to get the site set up, but I'll start getting pictures up soon!

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